FigN01 July 3, 2012 Share July 3, 2012 Lately I've been having massive issues with scattered thinking and lack of focus when tulpaforcing, cripplingly so. Today, though, I think I found my solution, and I want to see if it affects anyone else in the same way. Now, before you read any further, do a small forcing session with your eyes closed. When you come out of it, post in what position your eyes were fixed during your meditative state. It's important you do that before reading the next paragraph. For science. Now don't ask me how I thought of it (let's just say scattered thinking again), but when I was forcing, I dredged up an odd bit of information I had picked up- that the position of your eyes causes you to think in various ways. Here's one article describing the phenomenon. For example, when I tell you to picture a saguaro cactus being blown up by 4 pounds of C4 explosives, where do your eyes move to as you imagine it? It's probably the upper left, yeah? And then I realized that while forcing, my eyes have always been in that position. But when I had this little nugget of a session- my head was tilted back, so my eyes naturally pointed downward. My visions were much more vivid and I had a significntly easier time seeing sentience in Uzo. Realizing that, in every session since yesterday, I've looked downward with my eyes closed, and then when my mind drifts towards an intrusive thought, guess what- my eyes were unconsciously positioned toward the upper left. Look down, and it was an immediate fix. Weird. Whether you experience the same thing or something else, post about it. I want to see how consistent the effect is. But for me, it works like an absolute charm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Nemo July 3, 2012 Share July 3, 2012 Very interesting. I usually force with my eyes open because I find it easier to imagine my tulpa in the space in front of me instead in a black void (no wonderland for me, thanks). But when I do close my eyes while forcing, I'll be sure to point them down a bit. Thanks for the info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouse_ July 3, 2012 Share July 3, 2012 Good fucking shit fig. I swear you might be the most helpful person here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal July 3, 2012 Share July 3, 2012 Good fucking shit fig. I swear you might be the most helpful person here. Is actually Leo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FigN01 July 3, 2012 Author Share July 3, 2012 Good fucking shit fig. I swear you might be the most helpful person here. http://i.imgur.com/uiLIi.gif[/img] Well, I wouldn't call me the most helpful person. I'd say some guide writers and the few members who actually respond to all those repetitive newb questions need to hear that instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneGuy July 3, 2012 Share July 3, 2012 Indeed. My re-iterator army needs to be congratulated. Orange juice helps with concentration headaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chupi July 3, 2012 Share July 3, 2012 I hadn't really paid attention to it, but I usually move my eyes as I look around what I'm visualizing. This works well when I'm in a semi-dream state, but it seems to help if I try to hold them still otherwise -- in which case I'm trying to look downward because of this thread. Lyra: human female, ~17 Evan: boy, ~14, was an Eevee Anera: anime-style girl, ~12; Lyra made her My blog :: Time expectations are bad (forcing time targets are good though) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TulpaCouple July 3, 2012 Share July 3, 2012 Interesting. I think this may help me, but Nate says that for him, if he looks down, he'll just be looking down in his wonderland. His eyes actually move around quite a bit when he is tulpaforcing, they move around as if he is actually looking at the objects in the room. I don't know what that means. When he did the little mini session though he tried focusing with his eyes to the upper left and he said it was crazy how many intrusive thoughts and visions he was having. He was in a carnival, suddenly wrestling with a dummy using martial arts, the wonderland changing into a strange monster, all sorts of weird dream like random things. So he agrees, looking to the upper left definitely makes your vision in your head go nuts! Looking down or 'forward' seems like a good idea to keep concentration focused. Neat stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phi July 3, 2012 Share July 3, 2012 http://www.nlpu.com/Articles/eyemov1.gif For anybody interested in the full spectrum of eye positions and mental processes, this is from a site I read while learning some basic NLP. You can also find more on it in a few Psychology textbooks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corytrevor July 4, 2012 Share July 4, 2012 Isnt the article specifically talking about thought with eyes open? The hypothesis seemed to be that looking off to the side lessened environmental distractions. Anyway, personally while forcing, my eyes seem to either sort of wonder, or try to lock towards any sort of pressure or sensation that may occur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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